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Posted: July 15
From: Anon

Here’s a question for you all: what do you think about death?

Considering the recent murders, I’d say it’s something to think about, isn’t it?

It truly brings in the question of whether or not death plays a relevant role here. People seem to be able to come back to life, but seems to go from god to shinki or even shinki to god. Regardless of the reason for the change in reversal, it seems that one element in particular remains missing: memories.

I’m curious as to why memories seem to be the important element in deciding between a god and a shinki aside from the obvious.

So, here’s another question: how many of you were previously shinki who became a god? If you don’t remember your time as a shinki, would you want those memories back?

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[Normally Shun would answer this with a name attached, but the mention of the murders has him curious, and he's not stupid enough to draw the attention of whoever's responsible.]

Have they found anything other than those two bodies from the other week and the person who mentioned being attacked on here a few days ago?

I'd like to know what the real significance of memories is here myself. I've seen a couple of shinki become gods and the other way around, and it doesn't seem to be a problem for them to know that they were here previously, which makes me question why the hell their memories vanish at all.

None that I've heard of yet; then again, if it were shinki from the older gods doing the investigation, there's no telling when there would be word out on those.

It does seem rather peculiar since it seems to be related to their time here. For gods who become a shinki, I understand that there's possible consequences, but it doesn't seem to be problematic at all. It might either be a price to be paid for the switch in reversals or whoever's in charge is enjoying taking memories away as a price.

Depends which older god is overseeing it. Some are at least less obstinate about giving us information than others.

I've seen it mentioned that coming back as the same thing after dying still means you lose your memories. It might be the price for the trouble of being brought back, because I know with the older gods it relies on how many followers they had when they died, and shinki probably don't come back at all. So having a cost to it would make sense.

But can you really trust any of them?

One hell of a cost in that case. It makes me wonder if gods who were previously shinki would be able to regain memories too as time passes, much like how shinki slowly regain some memories of their own.

I didn't say they were trustworthy. But even if you can't trust them, you can trust the fact that they'll want to save their own hides.

Maybe. I haven't heard of it happening yet, but I doubt it's impossible. It would help if we even knew how shinki regained memories.

Aiming an older god to be the next victim--Heaven will never be prepared for that.

[But wait, it makes him recall the torn pages in some of the books he's seen in the library.]

Even if we did know, there's no telling what we could even do with that information. It can almost be a system similar to how random items would suddenly appear in our rooms.

[Yes, that could be a subtle hint about Yuto and his padlock necklace, but also in general since it seems to have happened before.]

They probably think nobody would dare, despite the fact that there's already whoever was behind the fires to deal with.

That happens to both gods and shinki, but it being from the same source would make sense. There'd have to be a limit to how many powers here can do things like reach across worlds or suppress and return memories that easily.

Fires and murders; it seems that these things usually happens when there's a crowd. But I don't want to assume they're related incidents either.

It'd be good if there's a way for us to be able to test that limit. Nothing is free and even that source may find itself eventually drained in the long run.

I'd call this too obvious to be related to the fires, or too direct. The ones behind the fires have been trying to keep themselves unnoticed, and it's much easier to slip up and get yourself caught during something like a murder than setting a fire.

If it's someone within the Heavens, they'd have to be some kind of outlier, given how much the older gods and shinki seem to hate the idea of shinki getting memories back. So chances are they don't know who or what it is, or if they do it's something they can't access to stop it.

Hence why I don't want to assume they're related. But it makes things a little more complicated if, aside from whoever it is setting fire throughout the Heavens, there's also another person or group out there that seems intent on killing people, too. Murders usually have a reason unless the murderer just enjoy killing people off.

That is a possibility; though, at the same time, it's not as if they seem to be entirely too focused on that right now.

There was apparently another party behind the string of suicides and the thing with the chocolates that had a similar effect a while ago as well. It's not like it hasn't been this kind of complicated before.

They are at least supposed to be looking for whatever's bringing us here, and it wouldn't be a surprise if it was the same thing.

True enough. Hasn't there been news as to what's been causing the suicides or is everyone sticking with the idea it's just been ayakashi going around doing those? With the way things are going so far, we might be dealing with several different parties that could have similar goals.

Not at all. Whatever brought us here surely would have enough energy to bring back memories or random items.

It was apparently a shinki inciting the ayakashi - one of the older ones, not the new ones. That one's apparently out of the picture now, so for the moment we're likely back down to two groups that we know of.

Right. It'd make sense for it to be the same thing, or as much sense as anything here makes.

An older shinki incited the ayakashi? [...What the hell?] But if it is currently out of the picture, then I suppose we should focus more on the two groups.

Only problem really is being able to figure out where it's coming from.

That's what I was told. So it should be out of the picture now.

It could be anywhere in this world, so there'd have to be a hell of a search in order to figure that much out.

I'll try to see if there's a way to narrow it down to a general area. Although, with everything that's been going on, it won't take too long before everyone becomes distracted by whatever happens next.

Exactly. It's going to take more than one person to even narrow it down, and we keep getting sidetracked by other problems.

There are some people I know who are also looking into this and helping, but it's only human nature to easily get distracted by something else that crosses their way.

I can't really argue with it, given the severity of some of those "distractions".

Seems like it'll be another waiting game.

That's how most things here end up.

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