[Text] One man washed on an empty beach

[volksdaemon]

Posted: May 31st 2016
From: Anon

Say you hated a specific god. Maybe you only distrust them instead of hate them.

Then they die, and a reincarnation takes the god's place. Maybe it even looks like the same, but the old memories are gone.

Could you give that reincarnation a second chance in spite of your old feelings?

[Schuldig's become more contemplative thanks to his new, empathetic feelings towards his own followers and what would happen if their prayers stopped being answered. Thanks, Eros.]

[[OOC: All answers are anon text unless stated otherwise.]]

Comments

[minogame]

I would want...
But it would be really hard, I think.

( Says the most generous boy ever. )

Permanon

[volksdaemon]

Nothing about emotions is uncomplicated.
But that sounds like a yes.

[minogame]

( Isn't that right... )

I think about the people who come here without any memories and how hard it would be if everyone hated them for some reason, I feel sad for them, especially if they wanted a second chance.
If they didn't want a secodn chance, I guess it wouldn't matter if others didn't give them one, would it?

[volksdaemon]

I can't imagine most people expect to *need* a second chance, until a circumstance like this would come along.
Reincarnation wasn't exactly a common thought for me before coming here.
Death wasn't near as complicated before this reincarnation stuff started mattering to me.

anon

[missingache]

No.
Because if it's the same person, even without the memories, they're probably gonna act the same as the original.

Permanon

[volksdaemon]

I expected a few people would think like that.
Not worth the risk, huh?

[missingache]

I've had the 'same person but not' thing happen a few times.
Each time they're the same.
There's one exception I've made and that's because they're way different as a shinki.

From: Athena

[adventurology]

As someone who has recently taken up the mantle of a departed god, I can say from personal experience that I would appreciate being given a second chance.

I think I'd be willing to offer the same to anyone, too.

Re: From: Athena

[volksdaemon]

I had thought about your situation as well, Athena.
But the reincarnation before you was, if nothing else, a man... correct?
That seems to break a trend of similar personalities cleanly.

From: Athena

[adventurology]

Yes, a man as I understand it. Tenpou, I believe was the name.

And I'm not sure our personalities are all that different. Judging by what I've found, he was as much a bibliophile as I am.

[Voice]

[sonofson]

So....a reincarnation is the same person but without memories and stuff?

Re: [Voice]

[volksdaemon]

It's hard to say.
If they don't have their memories of you, are they the same person?
Everyone has their own opinion on that part.

[sonofson]

I don't remember anything about me but I'm still me. I guess it would depend if they were different. Mmmmmm....if they were really mean before and then became nice....would memories make you a bad person though?

anon; text

[reformedsinner]

If they looked and acted completely different, then it would not be hard to give them a second chance.

If their behavior seemed to have changed, but they looked the same, it would be hard for me not to wonder if the change was false.

If the only thing that had changed was their memories, I would not give them a second chance. Isn't someone the same person, with or without their memories?

Re: anon; text

[volksdaemon]

That seems to be the case with Athena.

The problem I have with your second and third points though... are that when it comes to shinki, those two could both be true. They could look the same and act differently than others remember them. I really can't see some of those people as the same.

anon; text

[reformedsinner]

Did you hate Athena?

I can't avoid seeing them as the same. There may be reasons for their behavior before, reasons that they don't know now, but they are still the person who would do those things with the correct motivation.

anon

[concasse]

sure, but giving them a chance doesn't mean you can't expect them to pull the same shit

Re: anon

[volksdaemon]

That's short & sweet.
I expected a lot more of that decisiveness.

anon

[concasse]

I just make a policy of being prepared for stupidity

either the god fucks up and you got good reason to hate em again

or they get their shit together and you reap the benefits

you win either way

Anon

[oneblackcat]

No.

[Answer unwittingly based 10,000% on the OP himself.]

It takes a lot to get on my bad side. Once someone has crossed that line, there's no going back.

Re: Anon

[volksdaemon]

Another purely practical response.
This is heaven's justice, I suppose.

Anon

[oneblackcat]

From what I've seen, the presence or absence of memories doesn't seem to affect a shinki's personality. I see no reason to expect a god to be different.

Anon

[deniles]

Prove the previous memories are gone and they're not just pretending.

Re: Anon

[volksdaemon]

You're saying if the person did that, you'd give them that chance?
Seems fair.
I wonder how you can prove something isn't there, though.

Re: Anon

[deniles]

People are idiots. Sooner or later they'll slip.
And if they don't, I'd give them one single chance.