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PRESS ▲ TO SORA ([personal profile] oathkeeper) wrote in [community profile] thefarshore2016-07-13 08:09 am

HEAVEN'S BBS | TEXT 002

Posted: 04 Apr 2016 3:22pm
From: sora

hi it’s sora, working name baldr!

question. are ayakashi supposed to be able to get close to our temples? mega close nearly inside almost smashing stuff up, close?

i don’t think that’s normal-- but if it is i need to find away to protect my temple so it doesn’t happen again! it’s a real royal pain in my butt and not safe for my shinki either if i’m not there and it happens again! does anyone have any good ideas?

does my temple being on the shore have anything to do with it? bleh.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-15 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
That's because a melee weapon is intended to be used like that, so it would be designed to take heavy impacts. We don't have that guarantee because we're not meant to be used in that way.
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-15 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Suggesting that shinki aren't meant to be used for the very thing they're meant to be used for...

But having said that, I won't force anyone who doesn't agree. I don't see a point in it. Neither will I ignore it if someone needs help.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-15 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
A god's duties involve more than just fighting ayakashi. You can't answer every prayer with violence as a solution, so shinki can have other uses. [That's the explanation he's decided on, anyway, after the last time he asked about it on the network. Because the only other explanation is that he's useless...]

It's still my problem if you run off and get yourself killed because you wanted to fight an ayakashi bare fisted. And if you really wanted to help, you'd recommend them a more suitable god to call on for assistance. If they're calling you then that's already time wasted they may not be able to spare. You're being irresponsible.
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-15 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't think it's possible to have more than one function? I'd think you're more complicated than that.

He's from my universe, Add. And unlike me, he's got a future. The only irresponsible thing would be to do nothing at all if he needed help. I never said I wouldn't take any backup with me, but I won't do nothing.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-16 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a weapon, Roxas. I think that's pretty obvious.

I don't really care about your universe. My point is that you're not properly equipped for this, which is a fact that cannot be disputed right now. Trying to engage an ayakashi that's already too dangerous for a lone god would be a reckless decision. If it's something Sora can handle on his own, then it's a waste of time. How do you expect to contribute or defend yourself?
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-16 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
No matter what you tell me, I won't sit on my hands if he needs help.

I don't think you like wasting your time, so I'll say that now.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-16 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[So stubborn. If this guy wasn't so easy to deal with 90% of the time, Add would just tell him to go ahead and get killed so he can find a new god...]

At least you're right about one thing.

Fine. Don't expect any help from me with frivolous matters. Ludger can deal with it if he wants to. Try not to do anything stupid.
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-16 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[There are some things that he just won't yield on.

Imagine how terrible it would be if Add knew he was among them]


I'd go alone if it came down to it. I may not be able to destroy them, but I am able to slow ayakashi down, if not inflict ailments to debilitate them.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-16 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely not. Going alone would fall under doing something stupid. [roxas why]
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-16 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm much more durable than you think I am.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-18 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
If you're relying on your durability you're already doing it wrong. Blight is blight, regardless of how durable you are.
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-18 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't plan on dying.

So you don't have to concern yourself with the notion.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-20 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
You hardly sound like you have a plan at all.

It's my concern if I'm living at your temple. What happened to being responsible?
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-20 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Don't I need data in order to formulate a plan suited to a situation? Nothing is happening right now.

Like I said, I don't plan on dying. Not having a weapon shinki doesn't mean I'm irrelevant.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-21 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Going without a weapon shinki is bad enough, but saying that you'll go without a shinki at all is just moronic. A lone shinki would be more useful, at least they'd be able to draw boundaries. Just who are you trying to impress here?
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-21 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Do you really think I care about impressing anyone?
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-21 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I can't imagine why else you'd be acting like this. It's completely illogical.

Is it this Baldr/Sora person?
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-21 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
I told you my reason, but I'll say it again.

He has a future he has to get back to, and I don't. I will make sure that he does, because there's something he has to do.
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-21 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
He's the one I tested, Add.

[Or rather, he tested an approximation, but Data-Sora was virtually the original in ways Roxas and Riku were not]
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-21 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
[Well then, that's an interesting surprise. Filing that information away for later... perhaps he should investigate this Sora person some more, if he might have some knowledge about his bizarre AI god.]

Is this another part of your programming? Annoying. You're obviously not going to listen to reason, so fine, do whatever you want. I'll just have to start looking for a fallback god if you're going to be set on this. [Self-sacrificial types are so inconvenient, good thing he's not like that.]
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-21 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
You want to have more than one person to answer to?

Like I told you, I'm not going to die. It doesn't seem any more permanent in this world than the last one I was a part of, but it's like I said. I consider you and Ludger my responsibility.

If I don't look out for your safety too, I'm failing.
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-21 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
The data for that is inconclusive. Two deaths resulting in revival and memory loss doesn't mean a guarantee when others have vanished without a trace. What about the god who supposedly walked into Hell and never returned?

[And, just because he hasn't quite met his asshole quota for the day:] So, if you were forced to choose between saving Sora's life or one of your shinki's lives, and the circumstances prevented you from saving both, which would be the higher priority for you?
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-21 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
We don't know whether he died, only that he went there. But as I said, I wouldn't test it, when I'm responsible for others.

I'd make sure someone was there to help Sora, so there wouldn't be a choice to make. My purpose in this world is clearly defined.


[As they have ever been. He was prepared to watch his own world crumble around him rather than step outside of his role, because his purpose had always been first.

Remains first, even now.

And that's all to say he'd have to choose his shinki. They're a part of his purpose in this world; his purpose in his own had come to an end]
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[personal profile] subtract 2016-07-21 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
Is that so? But I already made that suggestion and you shot it down so quickly, I find it hard to believe you'd really trust someone else with such an important person's safety.

Besides, that answer doesn't fit the scenario posed. This would be a situation where no one else is available or otherwise able to assist, so the decision of who lives or dies is entirely in your hands. Are you saying you'd choose to let Sora die because your primary purpose now is to protect your shinki?

Or what about a scenario where you can only choose to save either Ludger or myself? Are there any other criteria you'd use to decide which has more importance in a situation like that?
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[personal profile] cloak 2016-07-21 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
I said before I'd bring someone with me, didn't I? You're usually more mindful of details than that.

You never specified that I'd be incapable of bringing anyone else with me. But if you want to know, my purpose is absolute. My world nearly fell apart around me once, but my purpose had nothing to do with it. I did not intervene.

You're both my responsibility, so I'd have to find a way.

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