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Posted: 8 May 2016 08:13 AM
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For those who were not already aware, there was an ayakashi attack on April 28th. This ayakashi was actually a shinki that had become corrupted. Some of you may have known that shinki as Axel.
On April 25th, I spoke with Axel and the conversation turned to that of our memories and our existence as shinki.
Those of us who are new gods and shinki are not the same as the natives of this world. The distinction between "outsider" gods and shinki is vague, and some have been able to change from one role to the other through unknown means. Some shinki have even recovered parts of their memory without any ill effects, and so I had some theories regarding that at the time. I theorized that the aversion to discussing our pasts was a mental blockade, but that since we are not "true" shinki, it would be possible to break past this block over time and recover our memories without suffering the same consequences that native shinki might experience.
Axel suggested that our gods may know something of our pasts. Since he was a nora with several gods to choose from, he was also the most likely candidate to be able to convince one of them to reveal something to him. He willingly volunteered to test this theory. The plan was to learn something minor from his past life to avoid any serious damage should the theory be incorrect. Obviously, the plan did not go as expected.
Unfortunately, I have no idea what, exactly, he was told. The Roxas who also goes by Artemis was the one who spoke with him when he turned, and he has decided not to share this valuable piece of information. It could be that what he learned was deemed "too much", or it could be that any information regardless of significance or detail can trigger the negative response. This change also seems to have occurred very rapidly, and it's doubtful that it would be possible to prevent this type of corruption once its set in. I have had personal experience with blight and corruption, and the "normal" process is much slower than what Axel seems to have undergone. Axel was the first of our kind to die by this method, and unlike previous shinki deaths that have occurred, he has not reemerged since. It is possible that shinki who have died from memory-induced corruption cannot be revived by the Heavens.
Due to these details, I have decided to cease any further research on recovering memories via brute force methods, and would strongly advise against any other attempts at this.
It's unfortunate what happened to Axel, but if the Heavens had distributed this information properly instead of forcing us to gather it on our own, this entire fiasco could have been avoided. That is why I am now disclosing this information fully and publicly. If there are any further questions, I will answer them to the best of my ability should no one else step forward.
If you have an issue with me because of my involvement in this, go ahead and say what you want. Hate me if it makes you feel better about yourself. I regret my actions, but regret isn't going to change the facts. Don't expect me to humour you if you feel that mindless violence will somehow bring Axel back to life. I have better things to do with my time than be anyone else's stress ball.
And just in case anyone has too short of an attention span to read all of that:
Do not under any circumstances tell a shinki about their past. If you are a shinki, don't ask about your past. If you are a god and you know something about your shinki, don't ever talk to them about it.
If a shinki learns too much there is a high likelihood they'll become rapidly corrupted by blight and turn into an ayakashi, which will in turn spread to their god(s) until the ayakashi is disposed of. So unless you want to die in a very hideous manner, don't push your luck.
From: Add
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For those who were not already aware, there was an ayakashi attack on April 28th. This ayakashi was actually a shinki that had become corrupted. Some of you may have known that shinki as Axel.
On April 25th, I spoke with Axel and the conversation turned to that of our memories and our existence as shinki.
Those of us who are new gods and shinki are not the same as the natives of this world. The distinction between "outsider" gods and shinki is vague, and some have been able to change from one role to the other through unknown means. Some shinki have even recovered parts of their memory without any ill effects, and so I had some theories regarding that at the time. I theorized that the aversion to discussing our pasts was a mental blockade, but that since we are not "true" shinki, it would be possible to break past this block over time and recover our memories without suffering the same consequences that native shinki might experience.
Axel suggested that our gods may know something of our pasts. Since he was a nora with several gods to choose from, he was also the most likely candidate to be able to convince one of them to reveal something to him. He willingly volunteered to test this theory. The plan was to learn something minor from his past life to avoid any serious damage should the theory be incorrect. Obviously, the plan did not go as expected.
Unfortunately, I have no idea what, exactly, he was told. The Roxas who also goes by Artemis was the one who spoke with him when he turned, and he has decided not to share this valuable piece of information. It could be that what he learned was deemed "too much", or it could be that any information regardless of significance or detail can trigger the negative response. This change also seems to have occurred very rapidly, and it's doubtful that it would be possible to prevent this type of corruption once its set in. I have had personal experience with blight and corruption, and the "normal" process is much slower than what Axel seems to have undergone. Axel was the first of our kind to die by this method, and unlike previous shinki deaths that have occurred, he has not reemerged since. It is possible that shinki who have died from memory-induced corruption cannot be revived by the Heavens.
Due to these details, I have decided to cease any further research on recovering memories via brute force methods, and would strongly advise against any other attempts at this.
It's unfortunate what happened to Axel, but if the Heavens had distributed this information properly instead of forcing us to gather it on our own, this entire fiasco could have been avoided. That is why I am now disclosing this information fully and publicly. If there are any further questions, I will answer them to the best of my ability should no one else step forward.
If you have an issue with me because of my involvement in this, go ahead and say what you want. Hate me if it makes you feel better about yourself. I regret my actions, but regret isn't going to change the facts. Don't expect me to humour you if you feel that mindless violence will somehow bring Axel back to life. I have better things to do with my time than be anyone else's stress ball.
And just in case anyone has too short of an attention span to read all of that:
Do not under any circumstances tell a shinki about their past. If you are a shinki, don't ask about your past. If you are a god and you know something about your shinki, don't ever talk to them about it.
If a shinki learns too much there is a high likelihood they'll become rapidly corrupted by blight and turn into an ayakashi, which will in turn spread to their god(s) until the ayakashi is disposed of. So unless you want to die in a very hideous manner, don't push your luck.
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Are you a god or a shinki?
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[ Hollows are human spirits that, in poetic terms, lost their heart and much of their power, behaviors, and patterns can be traced back to that singular cause. Ayakashi might be a different phenomena, but that shinki, who are souls of the dead, can become them based on memory makes him wonder. ]
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One of the natives would likely be able to answer that better than I can, but based on what I've experienced and observed...
Shinki of this world are former mortals, and ayakashi also prey on mortals. They infect their surroundings with negativity and try to drag mortals into despair and death. It's that same type of negativity that can cause a shinki to become corrupted. I think it's reasonable to assume that ayakashi prey on mortals like this because it's how they breed more of their own. If there's another origin, I wouldn't know.
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Huh, interesting. It's not much but it's a place to start.
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[ Granted, Urahara will probably stick his nose into everything under the sun before the month is out, but everyone has to start somewhere. ]
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The creatures in my world can be purified, not just destroyed.
[ Among other things. But Urahara isn't about to into the intricacies of Hollows-Swords and Vizored on the network for Reasons named Kensei and Zangestsu. Even if they are why he's asking the question anyway. ]
However, that requires understanding them - what they are, how they're made - in order to do that. Maybe it's the same for the ayakashi and maybe it isn't. That's what I want to figure out.
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If all ayakashi are indeed mortal souls that have succumbed to sin and guilt, then... perhaps. The method of purifying a shinki is to have them confess to clear the effects of blight. If it were possible to make an ayakashi "confess", then perhaps they, too, could return to their original states.
But I think the main issue with that is that ayakashi are driven purely by primal instincts. They don't think like humans do anymore, they act more like beasts than people. If they're already that far gone then trying to make them confess would be like trying to make a predator feel guilty for hunting its prey.
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[ For all the Kisuke would and could talk about this for days, the open nature of the network isn't a preferred method. The shinigami plays things close to his chest as a rule and there are two shinki here from his world. He has to be careful about the amount of information on his world that sits open for anyone to read. ]
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