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[kuroi_taiyo]

From: Judar
Date: January 21st, 1:13am


So there's some kind of sorcery in the Far Shore that involves controlling ayakashi. Some of the old gods were forced to reincarnate because of the whole thing and shinki were executed. None of the names have been written down though.

Anyone know more about it?

... Adding onto this
Like, is the way of 'control' the way that they define controlling shinki? Which is just transforming and having power, but exact control isn't a thing.
That's just by giving a spirit a name though, right?
Now I'm wondering if shinki can give shinki names. Can the rend spell still work like that, if it's possible?
Can a shinki name an ayakashi? How does one factor the corruption? Touching them causes blight when we fight them, so what if you had that kind of connection? Sounds like you'd have to constantly stay in a bath of holy water or something.
Unless there's a medicine that's meant to deal with blight from shinki and everything, to delay ablutions and other extreme measures?


Edit at January 21st, 3:04am

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[chibisu]

[Unmi is on social media watch today inbetween all his other work, and he nearly double takes when he sees what's been put recently onto the network. Someone's really asking about that kind of thing so brazenly...? Someone to keep the young master away from, certainly...]

[He checks the name. It doesn't like that of a god's... So, another shinki then. He'll keep that in mind.]

[kuroi_taiyo]

[ Given the time, Ebisu better be in bed right now. Which means there's plenty of time to keep it hidden from the boy.

But hey, it's important to share the fortune of knowledge, isn't it? He's coming for you people ]

Anon text

[sing_for_me]

Do you mean being able to control them made them reincarnate?

[kuroi_taiyo]

Controlling them led to the punishment of forced reincarnation. So it's something the Heavens don't like.

Anon

[sing_for_me]

What counts as controlling them?

anon

[lostinshadows]

Interesting thought.

Given the fact that ayakashi are spirits and/or shinki filled with corruption, one would think that ayakashi would be able to be controlled. On the other hand, if that's possible, then why wouldn't Heaven want to control the ayakashi for their own purposes?

Following that line of thought, if some of the old gods were forced to reincarnate, then what if that implies to Amaterasu as well?

[kuroi_taiyo]

[ How anon is this really supposed to be, though? Then again, they had spent hours at a time talking about theories and other shit, so maybe he's just imagining people behind some of these anons. ]

They put shinki through ablutions and kill them if they spread the corruption too much against the god, right? I don't see why it'd have to be so forbidden and severely punished if the god is willing to put up with constant blight from whatever they control. So I get the idea of not promoting it, or making it common practice, but they're high enough to choose their own risks.

And it very well could. Does anyone even know the reasons she was put through reincarnation?

[lostinshadows]

Maybe it's their idea of purification. Even a god has a higher up they have to obey, but there are also other gods that seems to go around it and not care about the consequences. Like there are minor and major gods, so it might be due to the higher ups just wanting to try and remain in control.

No one knows. Still, the fact that there have been past experiences with people trying to kill Amaterasu is an interesting thought. What if they're trying to put her through reincarnation against since this incarnation isn't living up to their standards?

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[erogappa]

I don't know if you'd get blighted by naming an ayakashi. Blight is guilt, right? Ayakashi don't act like they feel bad about what they're doing.

[kuroi_taiyo]

Their essences and natural corruption are all focused around those things, though. It's what they spread into the living.

So couldn't you say that it's all they feel? It's easy to not act the way people would expect you to feel.

[erogappa]

Next time I run into one I'll be sure and ask how their self esteem is doing.

Although I guess it would be easy enough to test, if you didn't mind the risk of painful death.

anonymous

[abgrund]

What if you corrupted ayakashi with a different type of corruption from what they represent?

A master of that could easily control them

[kuroi_taiyo]

[ Well, who are you, also knowing/thinking about different kinds of corruption. He likes you. ]

It'd depend on whether the second kind of corruption is enough to overtake the original nature, right? That's something worth experimenting on for said 'masters.'

[abgrund]

[ He's a living example himself, why not mention it? ]

There isn't a way to find out unless one tries.

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[wildguardian]

Couldn't you just test the shinki naming a shinki thing? Sounds like an easy question to answer to me.

I'm going to guess that if our gods get "stung" when we get upset, naming something made out of negative emotions isn't the greatest plan even if it's possible.

Let us know if you hear anything about medicines.

[edited, 15 minutes later]

Oh and am I reading "forced to reincarnate" right as "also executed"?

[kuroi_taiyo]

If you want to jump in without knowing if there's weird effects or risks, sure. Go ahead and name another shinki. Get back to me on the results.

And yeah, you're reading that right. They rely on the reincarnating aspect for gods. Probably in hopes that they do better the next time around.

[wildguardian]

So everybody who touches that kind of shit gets executed, and shinki don't come back, is what I'm hearing here.

You must be a brave guy, Judar.

Text; Mars

[bakusatsuo]

The hell are you doing? Reincarnation for a god is basically killing them, from what I heard, and they forced that on people who were fucking around with this stuff before. You trying to get me killed? 'Cause if you do shit they don't like, you're technically my responsibility.

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[wildguardian]

If I do shit they don't like, cut me loose. You don't need to take responsibility for something like that.

I'm not expressing interest in anything but the 'shinki naming shinki' aspect, though. If his description's accurate that's the one least likely to be involved with any forbidden sorcery.

If how this all works is the way I think, it also shouldn't even function, but wouldn't it be interesting if it did?

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[unlucky7]

[Bold move asking directly on the network. Without knowing who the person in, Ginia is disinclined to give out information that will put people directly in danger.

However, it's not as if these answers aren't already out there and were answered in a semi-public setting.]

Ask the people present at Zelda's meeting back in December. Two of your questions were directly answered there.

[kuroi_taiyo]

The only Zelda I know is a princess that turns into some warrior in a fighting game, with a great ass.

So I have no way of knowing who was at this Zelda's meeting. Also, which two questions?

[ He can make an educated guess, but would like confirmation if it could be gotten. ]

[unlucky7]

Start with Metis.

[And that's all you're getting. Sorry. But a lead is a lead?]

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[bakusatsuo]

Aren't the only people who'd know about this stuff old gods? And do you seriously think they'd answer you? It's probably ancient history if there's a book about it just lying around, and the people who experienced it probably don't want an encore performance.

And what good reason would anyone have for controlling ayakashi? Assuming it didn't instantly blight you into becoming an ayakashi yourself, they're only good for hurting people. Near Shore and Far Shore alike. So it sounds like you're an idiot looking for weapons against gods, who's dumb enough to sign their name.

[kuroi_taiyo]

No? To both those questions. The book isn't even that old, and ayakashi being controlled isn't as old an event as you think.

I don't have to think of good reasons for why people do things. It's a curiosity to an academic level. Plus, if I see someone doing that, I want to see the look on their face when that control is cancelled out. Even more, it'd be interesting to see how things go once these questions are put into people's heads.

Look at the other replies. It's getting people to think or even consider the option.

[ So yes, he's actually shit stirring while being a danger-spreading nerd. ]

[bakusatsuo]

Just for the record, you're a dumbass who thinks causing problems is edgy. Spoiler alert, you think you're dark and cool but you're just Chaotic Annoying.